When did the news casts about Portland burning stop? When Noem showed up to observe herself.
They’re done with Portland and have moved on to the DC “No Kings since 1776” protest.
Consider how much more dangerous this is. It’s on their turf. Random people are showing up and in greater numbers. There may not be “community” discipline like in Portland.
Portland did it their way and got “weird”, and it worked. I think what this will take is not just discipline but taking all of it back. Wearing the symbology of the country. Making “We The People” banners prominent to any film Noem takes. If they knock people down, then they’ll be knocking American flags down to the ground at the same time.
Unfortunately, I don’t believe No Kings since 1776 will wear those flags, even though that will be their armor. Statues of liberty, banners of the constitution, flags, all of it.
Take it back. It’ll be the only armor they have this go, making the peripheral view of themselves appear to be a maga march without red hats. Or do wear red hats that all say “no kings since 1776”. THAT will really confuse the imagery they want for social media. It’ll even confuse them.
Frog suits won’t work, it’ll give a vibe of a gay pride parade, to them, which will make much better film for social media when the ICE guys start slamming people to the ground.
I’ve been saying that for a long time. We have to take back the symbols of our country from the traitors who have desecrated them. We are the only ones honoring our Founding Documents, let’s be the ones to honor the other things that represent the PROMISE that the Founding Fathers made.
Unfortunately, we haven’t lived up to that promise very well, but that doesn’t make the concepts of Freedom and Equality any less valid. IF we manage to recapture our nation from the Traitors, we should endeavor to do better living up to those Founding Principles.
Hear, hear. I wish I could give and the poster above 1000 Internet points. I’ve been saying the same for as long as I remember. I remember someone expressing shock that I had a flag up - they were rather “centrist”.
I honestly don’t understand this. Fuck that. This is MY FUCKING COUNTRY too, zeusdamnit.
We on the left have got to reclaim patriotism and its symbols, etc, as OURS. It doesn’t belong to these fascist pigs.
I understand that, and you’re right. Some people will see that and not take it seriously bc it seems so unfamiliar to what they associate with patriotism, and that’s a big part of the problem. Liberty and Justice for all means exactly that. It’s important people be allowed to protest and express themselves however they feel is important to them.
I’ve had similar conversations with people about defending messages of Christianity, and people like James Talarico speaking out against the weaponization of Christianity by the right.
A lot of times people on the left will say something like why do we need to embrace that message at all? Why cater to the right, isn’t it enough to say separation of church and state? The answer is yes, and you don’t need to embrace a Christian message anymore than you need to wrap yourself in an American flag to prove you’re American.
However, if those are things you hold close to you, it is important you express those messages side by side Americans who look nothing like you.
The reason why is that the Christian nationalist movement relies on a narrative of victimhood and fear. “The so called tolerant left wants to destroy Christianity and traditional America. There is no room for you. They don’t want you.”
So it’s important to show them what equality actually means, and if they can learn to stand peacefully next to others that don’t look like them and express the values that do matter to them, then they’re welcome too. If not, then they can just keep sticking with a message that claims to love America in name, but apparently has no use for the values it was founded on.
The reason why is that the Christian nationalist movement relies on a narrative of victimhood and fear. “The so called tolerant left wants to destroy Christianity and traditional America. There is no room for you. They don’t want you.”
I don’t feel any special affinity for xtianity, though I was raised in a (leftist) tradition of xtianity, and have more than a few family members still part of various leftist xtian denominations. But the left and the Democratic Party have lots and lots of xtians in both, so what the right says is of course utter and complete nonsense.
What should be made clear is that there is plenty of room for xtians - as long as they realize that they have no special place or privilege over other Americans, and they have no special rights to try to indoctrinate others. If the rest of us don’t want to be part of their thing, they need to respect that and leave us the fuck alone. Their laws are for them and for them alone. Their rules don’t apply to our secular government. When they start trying to subject other people and their children to their book club by governmental force and injecting their rules into our government, that’s where the problems start.
I get that, I do, but the win that happened in Portland only happened because they agreed not to step outside certain boxes.
What this looks like on Noem’s film will decide whether or not martial law happens. DC marchers didn’t ask for that responsibility, but these are the times we live in and they have it now.
Portland didn’t ask for it either, and they worked together with a set of guidelines and won.
This next battle won’t be as easy as Portland’s, ether.
Everything you say is true. And will continue to be true at all the No Kings since 1776 marches EXCEPT the one in DC.
DC is Portland 2.0, which means everyone there has to craft an image for social media cameras and not take any bait. Or it could be martial law for everyone. No pressure.
Wear your rainbow. Or your inflatable frog suit. Just wear a bigger American flag. That’s all. Unless someone has a better idea for good film.
Keep the “since 1776” on No Kings, it resonates more.
Unfortunately, Portland is just on hold pending judicial review. But the news cycle needs feeding to keep maga minds stupid, so shift and shift and shift. If the troops are denied, the news will find another gap in the cycle a month from now and say “remember when Trump deployed troops to Portland? Look how peaceful it is!” While skipping the part where it was always peaceful.
No, that self-esteem lacking loser, Noem posted immediately after visiting Portland “it’s all on fire!” despite her camera people getting nothing.
pretty much, they have no convictions, thats why you always here them “they drove us to voting for trump for accusing us for commiting bigotry,violence,etc”
This is Portland 2.0
When did the news casts about Portland burning stop? When Noem showed up to observe herself.
They’re done with Portland and have moved on to the DC “No Kings since 1776” protest.
Consider how much more dangerous this is. It’s on their turf. Random people are showing up and in greater numbers. There may not be “community” discipline like in Portland.
Portland did it their way and got “weird”, and it worked. I think what this will take is not just discipline but taking all of it back. Wearing the symbology of the country. Making “We The People” banners prominent to any film Noem takes. If they knock people down, then they’ll be knocking American flags down to the ground at the same time.
Unfortunately, I don’t believe No Kings since 1776 will wear those flags, even though that will be their armor. Statues of liberty, banners of the constitution, flags, all of it.
Take it back. It’ll be the only armor they have this go, making the peripheral view of themselves appear to be a maga march without red hats. Or do wear red hats that all say “no kings since 1776”. THAT will really confuse the imagery they want for social media. It’ll even confuse them.
Frog suits won’t work, it’ll give a vibe of a gay pride parade, to them, which will make much better film for social media when the ICE guys start slamming people to the ground.
I’ve been saying that for a long time. We have to take back the symbols of our country from the traitors who have desecrated them. We are the only ones honoring our Founding Documents, let’s be the ones to honor the other things that represent the PROMISE that the Founding Fathers made.
Unfortunately, we haven’t lived up to that promise very well, but that doesn’t make the concepts of Freedom and Equality any less valid. IF we manage to recapture our nation from the Traitors, we should endeavor to do better living up to those Founding Principles.
Hear, hear. I wish I could give and the poster above 1000 Internet points. I’ve been saying the same for as long as I remember. I remember someone expressing shock that I had a flag up - they were rather “centrist”.
I honestly don’t understand this. Fuck that. This is MY FUCKING COUNTRY too, zeusdamnit.
We on the left have got to reclaim patriotism and its symbols, etc, as OURS. It doesn’t belong to these fascist pigs.
I understand that, and you’re right. Some people will see that and not take it seriously bc it seems so unfamiliar to what they associate with patriotism, and that’s a big part of the problem. Liberty and Justice for all means exactly that. It’s important people be allowed to protest and express themselves however they feel is important to them.
I’ve had similar conversations with people about defending messages of Christianity, and people like James Talarico speaking out against the weaponization of Christianity by the right.
A lot of times people on the left will say something like why do we need to embrace that message at all? Why cater to the right, isn’t it enough to say separation of church and state? The answer is yes, and you don’t need to embrace a Christian message anymore than you need to wrap yourself in an American flag to prove you’re American.
However, if those are things you hold close to you, it is important you express those messages side by side Americans who look nothing like you.
The reason why is that the Christian nationalist movement relies on a narrative of victimhood and fear. “The so called tolerant left wants to destroy Christianity and traditional America. There is no room for you. They don’t want you.”
So it’s important to show them what equality actually means, and if they can learn to stand peacefully next to others that don’t look like them and express the values that do matter to them, then they’re welcome too. If not, then they can just keep sticking with a message that claims to love America in name, but apparently has no use for the values it was founded on.
I don’t feel any special affinity for xtianity, though I was raised in a (leftist) tradition of xtianity, and have more than a few family members still part of various leftist xtian denominations. But the left and the Democratic Party have lots and lots of xtians in both, so what the right says is of course utter and complete nonsense.
What should be made clear is that there is plenty of room for xtians - as long as they realize that they have no special place or privilege over other Americans, and they have no special rights to try to indoctrinate others. If the rest of us don’t want to be part of their thing, they need to respect that and leave us the fuck alone. Their laws are for them and for them alone. Their rules don’t apply to our secular government. When they start trying to subject other people and their children to their book club by governmental force and injecting their rules into our government, that’s where the problems start.
I get that, I do, but the win that happened in Portland only happened because they agreed not to step outside certain boxes.
What this looks like on Noem’s film will decide whether or not martial law happens. DC marchers didn’t ask for that responsibility, but these are the times we live in and they have it now.
Portland didn’t ask for it either, and they worked together with a set of guidelines and won.
This next battle won’t be as easy as Portland’s, ether.
Everything you say is true. And will continue to be true at all the No Kings since 1776 marches EXCEPT the one in DC.
DC is Portland 2.0, which means everyone there has to craft an image for social media cameras and not take any bait. Or it could be martial law for everyone. No pressure.
Wear your rainbow. Or your inflatable frog suit. Just wear a bigger American flag. That’s all. Unless someone has a better idea for good film.
Keep the “since 1776” on No Kings, it resonates more.
Unfortunately, Portland is just on hold pending judicial review. But the news cycle needs feeding to keep maga minds stupid, so shift and shift and shift. If the troops are denied, the news will find another gap in the cycle a month from now and say “remember when Trump deployed troops to Portland? Look how peaceful it is!” While skipping the part where it was always peaceful.
No, that self-esteem lacking loser, Noem posted immediately after visiting Portland “it’s all on fire!” despite her camera people getting nothing.
dint she do a faux prayer session with her ICE lards. like it was so obvious they were faking it.
MAGA is all performative. They don’t have the intelligence to craft an actual belief system.
pretty much, they have no convictions, thats why you always here them “they drove us to voting for trump for accusing us for commiting bigotry,violence,etc”
More of Murc’s Law. I’m so sick of it.