• kip@piefed.zip
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        no man. there’s videos of isreali kids burning their draft papers, their prisons are filling up with conscientious objectors. nuke-the-fuckin-lot-of-em is not the way to go, even if they’re a tiny minority they do not deserve to be collateral damage in another nuclear dick waving event

        https://www.npr.org/2024/11/25/nx-s1-5160574/some-young-israelis-choose-to-go-to-jail-rather-than-fight-in-gaza

        https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/100-haredi-draft-dodgers-currently-held-in-military-prison-extremist-jerusalem-faction-says/

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        Yeah, nah.

        It’s a small region and you would hit every Palestinian, as well as impact countless other innocent people across the MENA region from fallout.

        Remove the Israeli state and give the land back to the original inhabitants to rebuild.

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        I say this without a shred of insincerity

        Then you’re a fool. The collateral damage and suffering from a nuke is inconceivable.

        It’s cool to hate Israeli’s but find a better hyperbole.

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        Probably should just arrest the leaders. The ones that have been in power for 20+ years and have slowly changed their people’s minds to reflect what their leaders want.

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        You should watch “Prosecuting Evil.” It talks about the allies after WW2, faced with a situation pretty similar to this, and how they had to grapple with what could even be done to try to stop the cycle of violence followed by “justified” retribution that had practically consumed the world by the middle of the 20th century, basically all the way into and including the genocide in Gaza in a literal unbroken line.

        What Ben Ferencz came to believe was the solution, was the International Criminal Court. He had a ton to do with pushing for its initial creation. Basically, we do exactly what we do inside our civil societies to maintain order: Agree on laws, then enforce them. The idea “well they did something wrong so we have to do all out war until they can’t do wrong anymore because they are dead” sounds like it makes sense but in practice it is not the way.

        “Bombing for peace is like fucking for virginity.”