You said retroactive thought crime is a big no no, but many cancellations of recent past (last 5-7 years at least) have been what you would label “retroactive thought crimes”.
Gonna need some examples because every time I’ve seen this sort of thing it generally turns out to be not true and not backed by examples. “Canceling” in most cases is someone saying something incredibly shitty then being shocked that the group that they said it about gets annoyed with them on the internet. This rarely has real world repercussions for that person and in the rare times it does it’s because they recently said something super racists/sexist/awful and the backlash from said group is significant enough that companies distance themselves from that person. These are almost exclusively public figures that it happens to and rarely, if ever, non-public figures.
The only time I’ve seen actual “canceling” happen to regular ass people is from the recent Charlie Kirk shit. If you can cite examples that would be stupendous. Otherwise I’m going to assume you’re kind of full of shit.
Fine, let’s go with James Gunn and his firing by Disney because of past Twitter comments. James was quick to explain, publicly, that he had stupid past decisions and doesn’t stand by them anymore as he has grown as a person. It took that as well as others advocating for him for Disney to consider bringing him back. It wouldn’t have happened without the people advocating for him who know him.
I understand your point and agree. I am asking how that is not punishing someone using retroactive thought crime. I’m asking you, how is it defined if you think that example isn’t an example? At literal translation, it defines it perfectly whether you agree with who or what it happened to or not.
Gonna need some examples because every time I’ve seen this sort of thing it generally turns out to be not true and not backed by examples. “Canceling” in most cases is someone saying something incredibly shitty then being shocked that the group that they said it about gets annoyed with them on the internet. This rarely has real world repercussions for that person and in the rare times it does it’s because they recently said something super racists/sexist/awful and the backlash from said group is significant enough that companies distance themselves from that person. These are almost exclusively public figures that it happens to and rarely, if ever, non-public figures.
The only time I’ve seen actual “canceling” happen to regular ass people is from the recent Charlie Kirk shit. If you can cite examples that would be stupendous. Otherwise I’m going to assume you’re kind of full of shit.
Fine, let’s go with James Gunn and his firing by Disney because of past Twitter comments. James was quick to explain, publicly, that he had stupid past decisions and doesn’t stand by them anymore as he has grown as a person. It took that as well as others advocating for him for Disney to consider bringing him back. It wouldn’t have happened without the people advocating for him who know him.
I understand your point and agree. I am asking how that is not punishing someone using retroactive thought crime. I’m asking you, how is it defined if you think that example isn’t an example? At literal translation, it defines it perfectly whether you agree with who or what it happened to or not.