Nearly a third of Americans – 30% – say people may have to resort to violence in order to get the country back on track, according to the latest PBS News/NPR/Marist poll.

Nearly a third of Americans – 30% – say people may have to resort to violence in order to get the country back on track, according to the latest PBS News/NPR/Marist poll.

It’s a sharp rise from 18 months ago, when 19% of Americans said the same.

  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
    261·
    2 days ago

    magats are not patriots.

    Patriots love their country and criticize it when its wrong.

    Nationalists create a fantasy narrative of what their concept of a “country” is, and think that’s the best thing in the world.

    I probably fit into the category of “patriot”, I love the multiculturalism of the US, I love the progress that has been made on Civil Rights and the protection of people with disabilities and recognition of the rights of LGBT+ people, I love the constitution (well… some parts need to be tweaked), the 1st and 2nd amendments, separation of powers, the idea that “American” is not a race, but an ideal; And I do recognize that the history is dark and those dark history should be taught so we can prevent those from happening, and I do NOT support this administration’s blatant violation of the constitution and anyone involved should be thrown in jail.

    These “nationalists” don’t even love the country, they do not support freedom, they are traitors, and should be dealt with accordingly.

    • khaleer@sopuli.xyz
      1·
      5 hours ago

      They literally are. The same goes for Israelis commiting genocides, as to the Russians commiting it. All of them are patriots to the fullest, and you can suck you copium freely, because as it seems, you are very simillar to them. Just waiting for your own patriotic front to be on the rise.

    • Zink@programming.dev
      121·
      2 days ago

      Patriots love their country and criticize it when its wrong.

      This line turned on a light bulb deep in the recesses of my brain that were formed while being raised by rural conservatives.

      In my conservative world at least, punching down was pretty much universal, not just a political thing. You don’t criticize your parents/betters or honestly even disagree with them many times, but you can expect criticism of your own every move. Generational trauma isn’t a single event, after all.

      Or, if you’re lucky, the parent is the type to sweep everything under the rug and pretend that everything is perfect.

      So with those kinds of traits plus the very hierarchical thinking, you can see how you simply do not criticize your people in charge, your religion, etc.

      But that’s only for YOUR people. If somebody is an OTHER then that means they are nowhere on your hierarchy (the correct one, obvs) and are therefore worth less than the lowest peon on your side.

      Soooooo, that was a long way of saying these people probably THINK they love their country because they treat it with the same honor, deference, and “see no evil” that they give their own grandmother.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      610·
      2 days ago

      magats are not patriots.

      They are. That’s the dirty truth of the Post-Cold War state of the nation. What we’re getting a taste of is authentic Real Americana.

      All the flowery liberal hagiographies of noble, selfless liberty lovers was propaganda. Trump is the beating heart of American oligarchy. And the oligarchs have had this country by the throat since the day settlers put boots on the soil of the New World.

      These “nationalists” don’t even love the country, they do not support freedom

      The “freedom” this country promises is a lie. It’s the old Auschwitz line. “Work shall set you free”. Horseshit. These people want to work you into your grave.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
        114·
        2 days ago

        They are. That’s the dirty truth of the Post-Cold War state of the nation. What we’re getting a taste of is authentic Real Americana.

        You are getting a taste of long running russian media manipulation, enabled by rich oligarchs who care more about their power and money than country.

        A russian literally wrote the book on how to take down the country.

        And this shit thats happening right now is literally what was written in it.

        You’re not seeing anything authentically americana from the right. You are seeing gullible idiots manipulated by outside forces to destroy the very ground they stand on out from under themselves, and do it while praising a country that they and their predecessors hated and vilified as the great communist evil.

        • yogurt@lemmy.world
          4·
          1 day ago

          A russian literally wrote the book on how to take down the country.

          Which Russian, the one that says gay atheists take down the country or the one that says gay Jews take down the country?

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
          23·
          1 day ago

          A russian literally wrote the book on how to take down the country.

          Sorry bro, but the calls are coming from inside the house.

          Part Two of Washington Bullets begins with a nine point manual on how the US goes about enacting regime change against those who defy their interests. Prashad uses the events of the 1954 CIA backed coup of Jocobo Arbenz in Guatemala, and a myriad of other examples, to describe the repeated strategies used by the CIA, and other regime change arms of the US State Department. There are patterns of imperialism which play out again and again. Understanding these patterns is vital when analyzing what the State Department is currently looking to do to their enemies such as China, Venezuela, and Iran.

          The first step in any US regime change effort is to manufacture public support for intervention. This involves a propaganda campaign not just at home, but also within the target Nation. Prior to the coup in Guatemala, journalists from NYT, Chicago Tribune, and TIME all received payments from the United Fruit, the multinational company which dominated Guatemala. In reality Arbenz was a popular leader who sought to enact minor land reforms. In the media he was portrayed as a dangerous communist, drunk with power. As the US corporate media fell in line, the CIA filled the streets of Guatemala with anti-Arbenz propaganda. This strategy of propagandizing both the American Public, and the people of whatever country the US is targeting, has been repeated again and again. Libya, Syria, and Venezuela have all seen money from the West used to bolster right wing media campaigns inside their borders. Control of public opinion has been one of the most vital components to US regime change efforts from the beginning.

          Step four in Prashad’s manual of regime change is to “Make the Economy Scream.” A reference to directions given by Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon to the CIA in 1970, as the US looked to overthrow the Democratically elected Salvadore Allende in Chile. Here we see a vital component of what Prashad calls ‘hybrid war.’ Isolating from the world those Nations who seek to develop themselves, and reclaim their own natural resources. Sanctions and blockades are used to starve smaller nations of financing and trade, as corporate media outlets point and say “look. Don’t you see socialism clearly doesn’t work?” US sanctions recently led to many deaths in Venezuela and Iran during the Covid-19 pandemic, as the US has continued their murderous regime change efforts, with techniques they designed almost 70 years ago.”

        • jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world
          22·
          1 day ago

          FTFY

          You are getting a taste of long running Israel media manipulation, enabled by rich oligarchs who care more about their power and money than country.