When politicians talk about how trans people are subhuman or deranged or biblically evil, it contributes to trans people being stigmatized and depressed. As a result of this culture of cruelty, many trans people end up committing suicide.
Where are the corporations firing these people? Just because trans teens sometimes commit suicide quietly behind closed doors does not make the violence somehow less terrible.
Yes, this is their intention. You know that right? They want to unalive them without going to jail. So the plan is to get them to do it to themselves.
Yes.
A hate crime that apparently carries 0 consequences across the globe. We live in a fucked up world
People that support the likes of Charlie Kirk ask for evidence or examples, pure denial.
They always ask for rules for you but not for them.
Fascists and their enablers often ask in bad faith. They hyperfocus on vulnerable minorities, to distract from their own group being ontologically evil.
If I had the money I would hire all those who got fired.
Since this is lemmy nobody can disagree with this opinion or post stats that discredit it without a ban.
Because it’s true. The anti-trans rethoric is incredibly harmful. If you don’t like trans people just because they’re trans, there’s the door
If it’s true, you should be able to rebut opposing views like “suicide rates are elevated in every population defined by symptoms of mental illnesses including gender dysphoria, it’s not specific to trans people”
The anti-trans rethoric is incredibly harmful.
The pro-trans rhetoric may also be harmful!
So, you support Lemmy banning people for disagreeing with the OP?
Such tolerance.
yes. Fuck transphobes, they’re not welcome here (on my instance, at least)
And what comprises “anti-trans rhetoric” and makes one a transphobe? Let’s say I agree trans people should have rights, be able to use the bathroom that corresponds to their identified gender, compete in the sports league that aligns with their identified gender, etc, but think they should have to inform their sexual partners of their trans status before engaging in sexual behavior with them. Am I a transphobe, spewing anti-trans rhetoric?
The anti-trans rethoric is stuff that harms trans people. Telling their partners they’re trans before sex does not harm trans people, as opposed to HRT being gatekept by a bunch of doctors uneducated on transgenderness.
Plenty of people would disagree with you that insisting trans people divulge their trans status to sexual partners doesn’t harm them, and would point out that it invalidated their gender identity by forcing them to identify not ad a woman/man, but as a trans-woman/man.
Likewise, one could argue that preventing trans people from participating in sports leagues that align with their gender identity prevents harm to cis people in the league.
I don’t think this is as black-and-white as you’re making it out to be.
“Lemmy” can’t ban people, people managing an instance can ban people. And yes it is ok to ban people for breaking the rules of a community or even an instance. If you have a problem with the rules on an instance go and create your own, that’s one of the core reasons Lemmy is federated.
Except instances that allow such things get defederated
Your point is? No one is forced to listen to your opinions but you aren’t prevented from having them if you run your own instance.
The tolerant left everyone
Advocates for the elimination of a minority group, gets banned. What!? You guys are not tolerant!
Nice straw man
I think you meant “that was accurate”
FTFY
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And there’s a third way of looking at it, where people who shouldn’t have an opinion about it at all are suddenly full of right-wing talking points that don’t align with science and reality.
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Pretty sure its just hate and the vast majority of them don’t even know what medical science can do for a trans person. The vast majority of people who transition do not regret it which leads me to believe the treatment is more than some depressing impossible goal.
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How is wanting to exist and living their life impossible to achieve?
Unless you mean it is impossible because of those narrow minded folks who still think that they want to change to something they aren’t already.
All they want is their right to exist without being told of being not valid.
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That’s absurd. Nobody outside of academia is going to take that seriously.
Everyone in academics knows that violence has more forms than physical. You should probably catch up to the high school understanding of it.
Everyone in and out of academics knows labeling speech “violent” is an attempt to get it censored. Stop being naïve.
Well it’s a good thing all those academics get listened to by the general public when they say that shit. Highly effective, clearly everyone is enthralled.
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Why so violent?
LatinX. That’s how well your academic language works.
You seem to put the onus of trans killing themselves on everyone around them and not the inner turmoil of their own minds.
Lower self-reported transphobia was associated with a 66 % reduction in ideation, and an additional 76 % reduction in attempts among those with ideation
https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/s12889-015-1867-2.pdf
An increase by one context in which a chosen name could be used predicted a 5.37-unit decrease in depressive symptoms, a 29% decrease in suicidal ideation, and a 56% decrease in suicidal behavior.
https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(18)30085-5/fulltext#intraref0010a
Socially transitioned transgender children who are supported in their gender identity have developmentally normative levels of depression and only minimal elevations in anxiety, suggesting that psychopathology is not inevitable within this group.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26921285/
So yes. Increased depression and suicide among trans people is, according to the research, entirely correlated with social factors like how much they are accepted by friends/family and chose name use.
If you had to experience excruciating levels of gender dysphoria, hate and animosity – often coming from your own family –, maybe you would think differently…
It’s not just verbal either, there is a real chance of non-passing trans people getting followed or even beaten up, especially in the evenings/nights. And yes, in the “civilised” west.
I got my dream job offer rescinded two weeks ago BECAUSE I AM TRANS.
I have experienced sexual violence BECAUSE I AM TRANS.
I am terrified of being pulled over by a cop and institutionalized or incarcerated because the government says that my license is wrong now.
The problem is not my mental state. The problem is the discrimination.
If I killed myself, it would to be to avoid becoming homeless - because, like many trans people, there are substantial barriers to employment. It doesn’t matter if the Supreme Court said it’s illegal to fire people for being trans, it fucking happens.
My mental health would be peachy fucking keen if I were not part of the marginalized minority group that the government is so slavering to make a target that they tried to pretend the Kirk shooter carved trans propaganda into his bullets! They want to kill us or institutionalize us - how the fuck would your mental health be if you were walking around with a target on your back?
Jeez what do you think causes that inner turmoil
This is a cis-white dude that has never felt any real discrimination in his life
