i wish i could stop using it altogether.
i hate this shitty app.
I will say I thought the same, but this finally convinced me to switch to Signal. It was surprisingly easy to get friends/family to follow - takes two clicks to install the app and set it up.
Same. Can’t leave it because of communication with family and work. It sucks that it is the de facto messaging app of so many countries
Also cleaning the chat data doesn’t clear the AI memory. It will always remember what you say.
calculate pi to its maximum extent trolololol 😂
I must say that American companies are getting better and better at making me ditch their products and services.
Art of the Deal at its finest.
I asked how we should commence to eat the rich and it typed out like five paragraphs before retracting everything and claim it didn’t speak my language.
Since my Parents are only on that for chatting, I can’t switch. What options are there for me
“I will delete my WhatsApp on -date- because I can no longer justify using a product made by a company, Meta, that is in such stark contrast with my ethics.
You can reach me via Signal, a messenger that works just like WhatsApp. It is very easy to set up, but I will gladly help you do so.”
What are they going to do? Not talk to you anymore because of a little piece of software that is so easily replaced? If so, is it even worth talking to them?
If so, is it even worth talking to them?
I’m not even going to say what I’m thinking of this.
I used my Parents as an example, but its not just them. Some friends, Kolleges or other important folks are on there, and no not everyone will move just because of me. What I was hoping for was something like a Matrix Bridge for Discord. Something that allows you to acces and chat with whatsapp folks via a Different Messanger.
If you live in the EU, you will soon be able to message via a third party app to Whatsapp users thanks to the Digital Markets Act from last year. Meta said they’re planning to release this feature this year. However through this feature Meta will still be able to retain data about your messaging. And since Zuckerberg has now openly aligned himself with Trump, there’s a fair chance that data will be used against you at some point in the future.
I recommend you sever any ties to Meta and switch to a privacy focused messenger app like Signal. It has the same interface, but far stronger encryption and it’s open source.
What you were hoping for was no change in your life. You gave a scenario and a solution was provided to you. You’re taking no responsibility, and want no change in convenience. How can you expect the ignorant to move off of WhatsApp if even the informed won’t do it?
I did the method suggested above and the vast majority of my contacts eventually moved to Signal, those that didn’t switched to old fashioned SMS to contact me. You are not missing out by not being a part of one specific messaging app, there are many out there.
That would be Beeper but you have to be aware that you’re still using WhatsApp with all metadata collection involved
Very Nice thats Exactly what I was looking for! Gonna take a look at Signal and set it up together with that. Gonna also shoot a message to all my Contacts there to announce my sorta Moving. Should make people aware of alternatives while also not giving folks an Ultimatum. Thanks!
Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice to see that you’re taking some steps now.
But… you hadn’t even installed Signal yourself? So you didn’t even know how many of your contacts are already on there? Wtf dude?
I honestly haven’t thought much about switching from whatsapp. Here in germany its very ingraned into everyones life’s. This whole Meta AI thing gave me the realization that I really need to switch. Its just one of those things I didn’t give much thought about before. Suppose better late then never.
Try to get them to switch to Signal if you can. I helped my 70+ year old mother switch with no problems because the UI is similar to WhatsApp and Telegram so it didn’t take her long to get used to it.
It is easy to disable, just follow this basic steps:
- uninstall WhatsApp
- install and use Delta Chat
- Enjoy 🎉
- You can’t talk with anyone, because no one uses your preferred FOSS, privacy respecting app.
- You try to convince people who don’t care about privacy to use some obscure app, with higher learning curve, and lack of features to comunicate just with one person.
You can suceed in some cases, but it’s not as simple, as just downloading privacy respecting app.
FOSS fanboys are so delusional they forget people don’t even care for their weird apps. And if I remember correctly, Delta Chat is for XMPP
I use Delta Chat exclusively to chat with my family, I don’t even have WhatsApp installed.
Delta Chat has most of the features you need for communication the only missing thing is integrated calls that cause the phone to ring, which is not a deal breaker for me since I don’t call often, used the jitsi meet integration once with them was a bit messy to get my mom etc to figure out how to use jitsi meet in the browser while explaining via voice messages in Delta Chat, but I think adding integrated calls is in the roadmap
So it uses email as the underlying communication protocol? Does that mean you can use Delta Chat to message people who are themselves just sending and receiving emails? Or are Delta Chat messages only readable with the Delta Chat app?
My dad is steadfastly sticking with email while everyone else in the family is on WhatsApp. If I could use Delta Chat to chat with him while he still uses email, and likewise everyone else in the family, it could be a great way to start getting people off WhatsApp.
Though I understand your 4 point (and one point I was chewed here in Lemmy for pointing something like that on an opensource community), and I don’t know this Delta app, what features would be missing from WhatsApp? Maybe video calls for sure, but I’d think stuff like “statuses”, “channels” or this ai shit aren’t really needed to communicate with someone
I mainly thought about voice/video calls, for many people they are fundamental features. You can add jitsi to your profile, but why would someone bother if, everything works out of the box in WhatsApp.
Delta is cool, wish more people used it
Not working with proton :/
Proton does not offer IMAP with their free plan. You need to pay to use some bullshit bridge to use IMAP.
That is a “they” issue, they don’t allow to use their email server with your own email client of your choice which sucks, better use other email service. You don’t need to use your email account tho, you can register without providing any information and it will automatically create a random anonymous email account for you, much better than the protonmail one, for free and without sending limits and with blazing FAST instant delivery
Just delete the crap finally.
That is the only question I asked it, back when it appeared on my phone.
Literally just saw it and asked it this
at one point I am just like: fuck it, lets have chat surveillance by the EU, it wouldn’t change anything anyway now with AI shit everywhere.
When you give up, they’ve won
