Leftwing extremists want to tax the rich and give everyone medicine but they are willing to compromise and just keep our existing broken system if others don’t agree… Rightwing extremists want to build concentration camps for democrats and brown people, punish gay people for existing, subjugate women and crush all resistance murdering people if they can’t get the votes to do it democratically.
Right wing moderates are ok with this and believe other people should be ok with them for going along with this.
Yeah, I can’t be friends with people who vote for people who don’t want me to exist.
I can’t be friends with people who vote for people who don’t want you to exist
I got your back no matter what
Well I just voted that youre not allowed to exist, so how’d you wanna do this?
Good luck! I want a different world for you all. We fight together!
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in the US there are no moderates, as one sides wants to eliminate the other.
Anyone who utters a phrase like “they’re hurting the wrong people” is not a moderate of any kind.
Wanting a demographic to be hurt is inherently extremist.
Ehhh… depends. I find it extreme to be OK with certain demographics existing. Like Nazis. Nazis shouldn’t exist, because they should be extinct.
Wanting absolutely despicable people to hurt is and should be a natural emotional response to learning of their existence. The real question as to whether it’s OK is, how are despicable people defined and identified?
To be somewhat pedantic, “Nazi” is not a demographic identifier. Demographics almost always refers to more immutable features like age, sex, gender, orientation, race, nationality, citizenship, etc. Political ideology is a way to divide and count people, but it’s not something that is reliably counted as a demographic indicator.
I dunno’, being a stupid bigoted judgemental clown willing to kill over things that they don’t understand seems to be pretty immutable in my experience!
I meant demographics like POC or LGBTQ, aspects people cannot change about themselves. Being a fascist is a choice.
Ehhhh, I dunno’, being a brainless bigot incapable of processing empathy seems to be pretty immutable in my experience!
Guess what, it’s actually incorrect to be friends with a Nazi. Nice shitpost though
If they could reconcile the “immigrants and trans people deserve rights” issue, maybe I’d consider talking with them, but to be friends at this point would be akin to me being buddies with a Nazi that is still bitter immediately after the war.
Moderate right: “Does this group of people actually deserve the same rights as me?”
Politics are definitely something that should ruin relationships if said politics are based off of enforced inequality.
Well by the looks of it the moderate right ceased to exist in America or it has lost it’s representation, in no small part thanks to the two party system. Over here in Europe I’d say it’s much better and this meme could be relevant, was it not depicting America.
why is this so downvoted? its saying extremism is bad no matter which end of the political spectrum you are on, which is true.
There are certain times when opinions are too vile. If someone says gay marriage shouldn’t exist, or that drag queens are grooming children, or that transwomen are transitioning just so they can win at sports, that clearly comes from a place of complete misunderstanding so ingrained that I couldn’t be around them much.
These are reasonably common positions even among the “moderate” right.
whether something is extreme or not has nothing to do with how popular it is. even if everyone in the world held those views they would still be extremist beliefs. the people who hold those views are not moderate.
I think ppl stand behind labels and forget to think for themselves. I think thats the root issue, and the og post just misses it. I don’t like to be around others with that mentality, It makes discussing political issues pretty annoying.
On many issues I stand on the “left” or “right” side. For exaple social questions like LGBT I pertty much on the left, individuals should be able to live as they want. Or environmental issues like global warming, its pretty stupid to deny it. On the other side the green energy is important to me, so I am with the right side (For some stupid reason only right wing parties want to build nuclear plants, and aid the ppl to build solar pannels) Or the infrastructure questions, like more and cheaper trains over cars is conservative push as well (at least here)
I have many friends from different political views, and the most conservative is less racist than some of the liberal ones…
Question like birthrate decline is the most commonly dismissed issue in the left… I dont see why they are against policies that help young couples to start their family. (Even tho I dont plan to start one in the near future)
Some can think that the Abortion is murder and morraly wrong, yet admint that it should be available. Some can think that beeing gay/trans is unnatural, but be happy for their gay friend finally found theirs SO, or respect their new name (we dont have pronounces)
So yeah stop thinking about politic parties and start thinking about the questions/problems. And vote for the party that is closest to your ideal. For you maybe is the party that does not want to get rid of the ppl you care about, for me, cos I am lucky that no party wants to ban ppl, I can choose a bit more.
Also it is possible to contact your representatives and push them to better choices. Its not A or B. If you care, think and do something.
I obviously can’t speak for everyone but my assumption is that there is such fundamental disagreement that for many, even saying “agree to disagree” with certain people would be a betrayal of their own values.
Someone I know put it pretty well when talking about the idea of how accepting their workplace should be of people’s different political values. They said “If someone doesn’t think I should have human rights, I don’t want to work with them.” which I think makes the point pretty well. See also: paradox of tolerance.
someone who doesnt think you should have human rights isnt moderate though. there is such a thing as people who disagree with you but are not extremists.
That’s a good point. I guess things have gotten so bad I don’t consider those views to be held only by extremists anymore but maybe (and hopefully) I’m wrong about that.
well since it is an extreme, anyone holding that viewpoint is an extremist. it has nothing to do with how common it is.
Isn’t the fact that it’s uncommon what makes it extreme though? I could be wrong about that but I’m not sure how else you’d define what is extreme vs not.
I think how extreme is nothing to do with how popularity. Nacis were popular yet everyone can agree they were extremist. In an ideal world democracy should keep the extreme views unpopular…
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If you don’t understand why you’re getting so much negative feedback, then I’d say you’re seriously lacking in either empathy or political understanding
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This doesn’t happen anymore. Everyone is extreme in something.
The extreme position that two consenting adults do as they please in bed or that someone is not discriminated against based on their skin colour.
Thats not what I said. I said everyone has an extreme nowadays. For instance, I believe if you want to strip away all social safety nets you should go live and die in the woods away from society. While others might think that person should still be integrated into said society.
Conservatives are shitty to use here because they are just Nazis. Their whole platform is extreme. You can’t find middle ground with that. But everyone still has an extreme belief of their own.
Nah me and one of my best friends are like this
