That’s ok let’s get prepared to stop him 🛑 ✋🏾
Oh hey look, it’s exactly the thing I was talking about when Trump ran for a second term the first time.
“If Trump wins this election, there won’t be any more elections.”
That was Musk on Biden of course. Nothing could have been more obviously bullshit. But half of your voters still got taken in by it all.
One of the reasons he’s so desperate to end the Ukraine War is so he can collect his Nobel Peace Prize, freeing him to start his war with Mexico, and have a draft, essentially enslaving the entire young male demographic so they can’t be used against him in a Civil War.
Then he can use the Mexican War as an excuse to suspend elections, even though we’ve never cancelled an election in our history, not even during the Civil War.
The fact that he lept on Z’s remark about no election, illustrated that he’s been giving this a lot of thought, wondering what might work as a reasonable excuse. Dems love Zelensky, and he cancelled elections because of the war, so if America is in a war, he can cancel elections, and the Dems will have to accept it. It won’t occur to him that there’s a difference between fighting a war in a separate country, and fighting a war within your own capital city.
It also won’t occur to him that just because something happened in a different country, doesn’t mean we have to accept it here. We have a Constitution, that’s the rule book, not some nation on the other side of the world.
It also won’t occur to him that just because something happened in a different country, doesn’t mean we have to accept it here. We have a Constitution, that’s the rule book, not some nation on the other side of the world.
It boggles my mind that there are still Americans who cling to legalism as some kind of saviour, even after all the months of proof that it is absolutely no barrier to the fascists doing exactly what they want.
Just because they want to pretend the Constitution doesn’t exist doesn’t mean we have to accept it.
We don’t have to match the MAGAs immorality to beat them, we just have to play Hard Ball, and force them to follow the rules, and the rules are the Constitution. If they refuse to follow the rules, we can’t just say “Oh well, we tried,” and give up. You FORCE them to adhere to those rules, whether they like it or not. And if they won’t cooperate, you keep pushing, and you NEVER stop demanding that they follow the rules.
Make them obey, period. You don’t disparage those that are advocating for forcing them to follow the Constitution. That’s just weak, and that kind of Democratic thinking is what allowed MAGA to rise, take power, and then take power AGAIN!
Too many people do not want violence of any form ever, so they’ll just let maga do what they want.
If the rules prohibit something, and they do it anyway, you need to stop them. Much like the paradox of tolerance, the rules are a treaty not a suicide pact.
Being committed to Peace doesn’t mean that violence is off the table. It is absolutely last resort, but history often puts humanity in a position of having to defend peaceful people against Monsters who are equally committed to violence and oppression. It’s an unfortunate position, but we did not choose this, the Monsters did, and therefore we have to meet them on their terms.
The difference is that if our violence wins, it’s over, and Peace is restored. If the Monsters win, they are just getting started.
We have a Constitution, that’s the rule book, not some nation on the other side of the world.
It’s just words on paper if not enforced. And Republicans haven’t been keen on enforcing it when it comes to him, not specifically but especially.
Enforcing it is the Democrats’ responsibility, but Schmuck Schumer is literally the weakest, most cowardly Democratic leader I’ve seen in my long lifetime. He is so ineffective, and he has become so wealthy from insider trading, that I am honestly starting to suspect that he is working with the MAGA Nazis, or at least actively unopposing them.
His weakness is a major reason that MAGA was able to rise, get elected, and rise again to get elected AGAIN. He is as reliable to MAGA as any of HitlerPig’s trusted henchmen.
If Schmuck Schumer isn’t a secret MAGA, he is just the same as one. It’s long past time to kick him out.
essentially enslaving the entire young male demographic so they can’t be used against him in a Civil War.
Ever heard of mutiny? Because that is how you get a mutiny.
I’m fucking tired of this fucking dumbass and everyone who enables him by saying he’s just joking. Sometimes, people are not joking. It’s not just a fucking prank, bro. And even if it was? What kind of professional politician just pulls pranks nonstop?
He’s never joking. He’s a genuine psychopath, he has no sense of humor. He’s just learned to pretend like he has one to fool the normal humans without broken personalities. If he says it, he’s serious.
He only presents it like a joke to get people used to the idea. Anyone that reacts with outrage at his statements are immediately mocked and denigrated as dramatic nonsensical leftists. Then when they actually do the thing they claimed would never happen, the tune changes from accusing the left of senseless hysteria to them accusing them of being anti-American, Pro-crime, etc etc.
Every step they take with the federalization of armed forces is to get the populace used to the idea of it happening. And, so far, that has been largely successful. So when they actually mobilize, there will be far less pushback.
Okay, so you’ve clearly been paying attention. Keep it up brother, I’m sure you’ve already figured out that there’s a LOT of trouble ahead. We’re not getting out of this without violence.
They will continue to escalate things until they take a major action like the Nazis did with the Night of Long Knives. It’s just a matter of what that will be. I’m expecting something with Mexico. Since he has started talking about military incursions to deal with cartels, if applied to the strategy aforementioned, he’s conditioning the public to get used to the idea. Then, when he invades Mexico and pisses off even more Americans, I think they’re expecting riots in response. Once the riots happen, he will send in military not to occupy cities but to completely take them over.
Yeah, it will be Mexico. He can rally a significant portion of the population against “cartel terrorists,” but he would have a hard time doing that against Canada. Plus, Canada is essentially England, and even an ignorant moron like him can figure out why that would be a bad idea.
And yeah, they are already staging it, “leaking” details, etc.
Hmmmm…
Release the Trump/Epstein files
News flash people, he’s not fuckin joking. Arm yourselves while you can.
This is a trial balloon
Does a civil war count?
That’s exactly what he’s hoping for.
He’s militarizing cities as we speak. If he keeps amping it up, protests will theoretically follow. MAGA will find some reason to claim these protests “turned violent”. Trump declares martial law and cancels elections. Done.
I thought that’s why y’all kept sacrificing children to gun violence, but apparently they were to support, not fight, facism. Or at least to have them hanging there while supposedly American values get trampled.
Look, it’s not simple. Armed rebellion is not a good time. If that course is taken it’s critical to first understand where the states fall. Since each has it’s own military, among other things, no tactical decisions can be made until those lines are drawn, or fragmented accordingly.
It’s kinda the equivalent of asking why the Italians aren’t doing a revolution because the EU decided to ban Pasta. Like sure they did that, it’s not good, but like what happens if Germany doesn’t participate and Ireland sides with Italy?
People keep wondering why we aren’t in a full blown shooting war yet, even trying to bait us into it. That day will come, it’s nearly inevitable at some level, but it takes time to get to that point. It will take EVERY American to feel like we have done EVERYTHING we can to avoid it, and then the MAGA Nazis are finally going to do something to put us over the edge, and it will be on.
I have a few red lines. One is my son. My son will not be fighting in any MAGA war, period. If he gets drafted he will not go. If the government does anything to him, I will become a very dangerous person.
Another is elections. If elections are suspended or cancelled for ANY reason, then America has ceased to exist, and I cooperate with nothing. I don’t pay taxes, I don’t follow the laws, etc. As far as I am concerned, there is no government, no law enforcement, no laws. Without elections, we are without a government, we are in a state of Anarchy, and I will recognize no authority.
People keep moving the goalposts. I’ve been hearing next line in the sand will be 'the onec since their Godking rose to power.
I’m sure it will be the files bro. Surely the files. Trust me bro one more scandal.
I hope you realize your argument boils down to “because the right people aren’t suffering yet”. 🤢
Also, this country is huge and most of us are living paycheck to paycheck. It’s tough to have an armed rebellion when you can’t afford enough gas to drive to the front lines.
That’s what this shitfuck does. He ‘jokes’ about an idea, then repeats it until it sounds normal, then does whatever the fuck he wants and nobody does anything about it.
So did they cancel elections when US invaded Iraq? Afghanistan? Vietnam? Nah… but Trump just wants to cancel elections. He is a dictator. Since there’s nothing and no one stopping him - there’s no reason why he won’t just do it. It’s what 70 million Americans wants anyway.
Maybe he’s planning for the next war to be closer to home. Mexico, Panama and Canada should take this seriously.
We are
Can he have a stroke or massive heart attack or something already? Fucking hell man. Nature never takes the ones it should.
He lives such an unhealthy lifestyle that it is amazing he has held out this long.
Only the good die young.
Then they 25th Amendment him and install JDV as Thiels hand-picked successor. Somehow speedrunning our way into some weird techno-fascist hellacspe faster than we already are.
Or he could’ve already had one. Allegedly Reagan was declining for years and the people around him successfully hid it until he was out of office.
99% sure he wasn’t joking. He was plotting.
As soon as he stops being president all that Epstein shit is going to fall over him, he knows that so he’s going to try to use his power to stay in power.
This man acting like he’s going to see another election
Do it. Let’s pop this shit off already.
Zelenskyy’s comment about war and instability was NOT BEING THE SIDE THAT STARTED THE WAR.
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.
anyways, EPSTEIN FILES. WHERE THEY AT?
It’s not even that. It’s about what the country’s structure permits. Ukraine doesn’t allow for midwar elections, the us doesn’t allow for skipping them.
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.
It’s really not. Lincoln held midterms in the middle of the Civil War. FDR held elections after Pearl Harbor. Ffs, Bush cleaned up the year after 9/11 and rode the pro-war election wave through 2004.
The idea that your elected leadership is immune to recall when you’re in a state of war is anathema to democracy. It insulates unpopular leaders and empowers military dictators.
There is no distinction, save that liberals like Zelensky and hate Trump.
It makes a big difference whether the war is in your own country and touches everyone, or if it’s waged elsewhere or touches only a small part of your country.
US Civil War didn’t have 500 drones flying to various cities across US each day and night. If Ukraine had elections now, there would be queues on the street and those queues would get bombed by the Russia. I don’t think this would have been a risk around the time of Pearl Harbour.
What is your suggestion for how the elections in Ukraine could be organized safely and so that the result would be reasonably representative?
US Civil War didn’t have 500 drones flying to various cities across US each day and night.
The Confederate Army got as far north as Gettysburg, Pennsylvania by 1863. The Union Army’s Anaconda Plan embargoed the entire Gulf Coast and resulted in the bombardment of cities as far south as New Orleans and Galveston. Sherman’s march wrecked a trail of destruction from Atlanta to Savanah, across 285 miles. They didn’t need remote controlled planes to bombard cities. They had troops outright razing cities to the ground month by month.
What is your suggestion for how the elections in Ukraine could be organized safely and so that the result would be reasonably representative?
Do Mail In Voting. That’s the same method we’ve been using in peacetime and wartime, around the planet, for centuries. It worked during COVID in 2020. It worked to end South African Apartheid in 1994. Mail in voting was vital to maintain democracy during mass deployments in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. And, again, in the middle of the US civil war in 1862.
But, again, this isn’t an issue of whether democracy can work. This is an issue of whether Zelensky can maintain his position as his popularity nosedives. What scares the shit out of American liberals is the idea that a popular vote in Ukraine will reveal people aren’t enthusiastic about another year or three of grinding attrition with the Russians. Ukraine can’t risk having an election that refutes the dogma of the hawks.
Of cpurse Zelensky won’t be able to hold his position if his popularity nosedives. That’s a simple answer to a simple question.
But how is that relevant? His popularity isn’t going to nosedive in that manner anytime soon.
But how is that.relevant?
Elections are the means by which we survey a burraucrat’s popularity.
Well, for that there are other ways as well. Elections are for making decisions. Popularity can be polled in easier ways as well.
But what I asked was why is it relevant that Zelensky won’t stay president very long of he somehow loses his support among the people? It’s a self-clarity, so I was interested in knowing why you chose to mention that.
Popularity can be polled in easier ways as well.
Unless you’re included in the sample group, your stance isn’t being counted. Polling is great for gauging sentiment between cycles, but if you’re not actually doing a fully election poll, you’re effectively empowering the pollsters to set the policy (implicitly or explicitly) based on their weights and biases. Frank Luntz can, pretty famously, bend his polling group into a pretzel when he puts his mind to it.
I was interested in knowing why you chose to mention that.
He’s the head of the government right now. He has the most to gain by postponing elections indefinitely.
Bush was in the middle of his term a year after 9/11, I assume you mean the Republican Party?
Bush’s party, the Republican Party, took the majority of the legislature after 2002 and greatly expanded the powers of the chief executive office that Bush held.
“yes” would have been much easier to type, just for your future convenience
I was a teenager around that time, and I remember Bush being insanely popular for awhile.
So Putin invades Alaska in 2028 to give him an excuse, got it.
Also America has never really been invaded during an election…at least not its homeland…to any significant extent. The civil war is the best example, but that wasn’t even a foreign enemy. Now if China say invaded the west coast, and cities like Portland, LA, San Diego, etc are solidly in Chinese hands wiht the Chinese moving across the rockies and the President and Congress come along and and collectively go “We think we should pause elections until things get stable”…I’d have a hard time arguing against that.
Joking?
yea, you know just like how he “joked” about rounding up brown people, or cut most people’s medical aid, or destroy the american soft power.
you know, just funny things he would totally never ever do, because that would mean his voters are retarded.
guys guys he’s just joshing around. he’s not actually gonna use the world’s most notoriously influential military power to invade mexico or greenland when the economy fails and he needs to steal a bunch of shit to prop it up. those invasion plans theyre planning are just for funzies trust me bro
Meh, just hold one without him. Get an electoral college quorum and move the new guy in because it’s 100% state driven and he can’t change the constitution. Like an old time papacy schism, let God sort it out.
he can’t change the constitution
No, but he’s sure proven that he can ignore it. And the Supreme Court will ultimately back him up. And they’ve already ruled that he can’t be charged with anything illegal he does while president (the courts won’t even punish him for crimes he was convicted of when not POTUS). And even if they don’t rule in his favor he’s shown he’s willing to ignore the courts when they don’t rule in his favor.
If the cops and military side with him- and there is a good chance the majority in both groups are MAGAts, he’ll just have people participating in the ‘illegal/illegitimate’ elections arrested.
If he’s still alive in 2028 he will not give up power, I guarantee it.
Police maybe. But, from my anecdotal experience in the military, as an infantryman, so not even officer/better educated MOS, the military is surprisingly nuanced. It’s too big of an organization with too many backgrounds to make a statement like that, if you ask me. Granted, I was in during his first presidency, and a lot could have changed, but, you might be surprised the resistance the military would give.
I hope you are right.
Purely anecdotal but the two younger veterans I know absolutely abhor him and what he’s doing.
I’m not saying he’d let it happen, but this is one scenario where the constitution is perfectly clear and it’s within the states’ authority. They could even ignore the SCOTUS if they wanted, though I think even the SCOTUS would struggle to justify stopping an election.
Oh he’s not giving up power willingly.
