Yeah, and with mobile apps maturing I’ve actually seen people handle their whole business from an iPad. They had a consultant do the heavy lifting though so they just had to audit and send the pre-made invoices and payments in their iPad.
It’s a skewed number though, since most people will have a lot of mobile screen time where most gamers and professionals have a more even divide between desktop and mobile - yet most people still own both. You’re point still holds, but hardware companies earn money from the amount of devices sold and not with how many hours is being spent using them.
Their market isn’t selling their own hardware, but their software income comes from selling it with hardware.
Just over one billion active devices use Windows for their operating system, according to Microsoft. That sounds like an impressive statistic, but the company isn’t as quick to point out that three years ago, the figure stood at 1.4 billion, meaning 400 million devices are no longer running the OS.
Imagihe you buy an android phone and a Windows PC tomorrow and use your new android everyday but don’t take that pc out of the box, Microsoft still made money and therefor took a share of the market. At the same time, that machine is not going to show up in seo data.
You have a valid point, i’m not saying youre wrong but youre comparing apples (devices used) with oranges (devices sold). But you are right that there is a huge increase in mobile devices used and that surely correlates to the % of divices are running windows. I’m not disagreeing with that.
Young people no longer own computers. They only use their phone. For everything. As an employer of young people the only computer they may have ever used is at school a Chromebook which they gave back when they graduated. If they aren’t in school they simply will never own a PC or mac again.
This is so whack. I don’t get it, but it strikes me as true for many people 5-10 years younger than me. I’m the opposite. I want to use my desktop for everything and I’d sooner use a dumbphone/laptop combo than a smartphone with no computer. One thing I will never do on a phone is game. Sure, snake in the doctors office is one thing, but mobile gaming is so trash and scammy and bullshit that I just can’t have any fun.
Again I would like to clarify these are people who don’t continue further education after high school. Many have access to their parents computers but simply don’t use it or realistically know how or care.
People tend to think everyone is like everyone they know. All my friends PC game. All my friends have computers. There’s large swaths of people in different social circles where console and mobile gaming is all they do. Hell many of my young people barely have email. They only look in email if we force them to for onboarding documents
You’re right, but in the age group 18-29 the majority isn’t a PC gamer. You have also a lot of creative professionals who have a computer. But a lot (might by now be >50%) don’t have a laptop. Also in college more and more people only use a tablet. I feel also a growing number of not young people are switching to a tablet or have a laptop laying around somewhere for that one time you need it.
You’re right, but in the age group 18-29 the majority isn’t a PC gamer.
For sure, but we’re still talking millions of young people with at least a PC (for gaming).
Also in college more and more people only use a tablet. I feel also a growing number of not young people are switching to a tablet or have a laptop laying around somewhere for that one time you need it.
Interestingly enough, the EU reports (as late as 2023) that desktop use to access the internet has gone down over the years, but so has tablet use. Laptop, phones, and smart devices (i.e. smart TVs) went up.
But I didn’t see a breakdown of the age groups there, and it doesn’t expand on gaming/non-gaming habits, just “devices used to access the internet”.
I went through a phase where I did everything on Android tablets, then a Windows tablet, then back to a laptop. LOL I still have a desktop PC, but my laptop is my daily driver.
Interestingly enough, the EU reports (as late as 2023) that desktop use to access the internet has gone down over the years, but so has tablet use. Laptop, phones, and smart devices (i.e. smart TVs) went up.
Interesting for sure, desktop going down doesnt surprise me much but hadn’t expected tablet use to go down as well.
Mobile is the key here. Linux and Mac aren’t responsible for these numbers.
Ask the SEO guy at any company what’s the current divide between mobile and desktop visits to their site.
Yeah, and with mobile apps maturing I’ve actually seen people handle their whole business from an iPad. They had a consultant do the heavy lifting though so they just had to audit and send the pre-made invoices and payments in their iPad.
I also constantly see people waste 2 hours on stuff on their phone or tablet that could be done in 10 minutes on a computer…
It’s a skewed number though, since most people will have a lot of mobile screen time where most gamers and professionals have a more even divide between desktop and mobile - yet most people still own both. You’re point still holds, but hardware companies earn money from the amount of devices sold and not with how many hours is being spent using them.
Sure, but we aren’t talking about hardware company profits. This is an article about Windows losing market share.
Their market isn’t selling their own hardware, but their software income comes from selling it with hardware.
Imagihe you buy an android phone and a Windows PC tomorrow and use your new android everyday but don’t take that pc out of the box, Microsoft still made money and therefor took a share of the market. At the same time, that machine is not going to show up in seo data.
You have a valid point, i’m not saying youre wrong but youre comparing apples (devices used) with oranges (devices sold). But you are right that there is a huge increase in mobile devices used and that surely correlates to the % of divices are running windows. I’m not disagreeing with that.
Wait, does Microsoft still have a mobile OS??
Young people no longer own computers. They only use their phone. For everything. As an employer of young people the only computer they may have ever used is at school a Chromebook which they gave back when they graduated. If they aren’t in school they simply will never own a PC or mac again.
This is so whack. I don’t get it, but it strikes me as true for many people 5-10 years younger than me. I’m the opposite. I want to use my desktop for everything and I’d sooner use a dumbphone/laptop combo than a smartphone with no computer. One thing I will never do on a phone is game. Sure, snake in the doctors office is one thing, but mobile gaming is so trash and scammy and bullshit that I just can’t have any fun.
Again I would like to clarify these are people who don’t continue further education after high school. Many have access to their parents computers but simply don’t use it or realistically know how or care.
People tend to think everyone is like everyone they know. All my friends PC game. All my friends have computers. There’s large swaths of people in different social circles where console and mobile gaming is all they do. Hell many of my young people barely have email. They only look in email if we force them to for onboarding documents
The PC gaming industry disagrees, though. Half the user base on Steam is < 29 years of age and younger (and they don’t count ages younger than 18).
Even still, gaming on Linux has exploded, and Xbox has been enshittified beyond recognition, so M$ is losing on all fronts.
You’re right, but in the age group 18-29 the majority isn’t a PC gamer. You have also a lot of creative professionals who have a computer. But a lot (might by now be >50%) don’t have a laptop. Also in college more and more people only use a tablet. I feel also a growing number of not young people are switching to a tablet or have a laptop laying around somewhere for that one time you need it.
For sure, but we’re still talking millions of young people with at least a PC (for gaming).
Interestingly enough, the EU reports (as late as 2023) that desktop use to access the internet has gone down over the years, but so has tablet use. Laptop, phones, and smart devices (i.e. smart TVs) went up.
But I didn’t see a breakdown of the age groups there, and it doesn’t expand on gaming/non-gaming habits, just “devices used to access the internet”.
I went through a phase where I did everything on Android tablets, then a Windows tablet, then back to a laptop. LOL I still have a desktop PC, but my laptop is my daily driver.
Interesting for sure, desktop going down doesnt surprise me much but hadn’t expected tablet use to go down as well.
Steamdeck and others is helping those numbers a lot and I assume it will continue to rise.
Are there any accurate figures for stramdeck users? I don’t know anyone who has one, but plenty who have gaming PCs.
Nope.