Article is in italian I couldn’t find any news about this in english but i believe it’s really important to share.
"Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l’aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "
Translation:
"80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice’s Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "
The EV battery dying the moment you look at it funny is a myth, if I were conspiratorial I’d say by the oil industry, but I firmly believe hanlon razor comes into play here.
Yes they degrade, but they are still useful.
LFP batteries (introduced around 2020) have an estimated lifespan of a million kilometers. The NMC ones less, around 400k, with warranties covering 200k.
If you are really worried despite all the data, Renault allows you to buy the car and rent the batteries. Those cars are on the market for about 3k nowadays, plus battery rent 60€ a month. Never worry about the battery, if it degrades Renault gives you a new one. They know they will make a big profit, because again, batteries don’t degrade that easily.
Mass transit is the best solution but plenty of people still need cars, and for those people used EVs are the best economic (and ecological) option.
Yeah.
So you’re kinda full of it aren’t you?
15yo ev’s driven normally are going going to be out of warranty, and probably pretty close to EoL, which was my point to start with.
Most used EVs on the market are approaching their end of life. And with batteries, range goes down before it’s technically EoL,
The mileage you dropped is just another way to say that.
You don’t need to buy the first ever model produced, do you? You can buy a 10 year old car, which if driven 10k a year still has half the life of its battery available. Chances are it wasn’t used for road trips so it will have been driven less than 10k a year, leaving maybe 75% of its useful life. Even the first ones ever produced could have 5 or 10 years in them, depending on usage and mileage. Used EVs ARE NOT close to EoL in most cases.
Plus you can get it inspected, get a battery certificate or even a second hand warranty of you are soooo worried. Or, as I said before, you buy the car and rent the battery. Doesn’t make economic sense, but falling to propaganda never does. There are easy solutions besides ranting on the internet.
Again, hanlon razor applies here, so I don’t think you are sponsored by the oil industry, but you repeat their taking points exactly.
Yes. Totally the talking points of Big Oil.
Totally.
You’re full of shit.
A quick search, and average EU driving is about 10k km/year.
Being generous here and not using the more-than-double American numbers, you can expect a typical decade-old ev to have lost about 20% of its range, and having had about 200km max range when it was out, for about 160km.
Fine for daily commute, sure. Not fine if the owner ever wants to visit another city, for oh so many reasons. Not like us poors have a life. Nope all we ever do is commute, work, and go home. That’s all life is….
That’s why I mentioned hanlons razor, parroting oil companies without stopping to think.
EV not fine for another city? A 20 minute charging stop is worth thousands more in purchase costs, thousands more in maintenence costs and hours in downtime related?
Want to visit another city? Stop to charge. Take the train. Fly. Walk if you want. Buying a used EV does not prevent you from doing any of those things.