• apprehensively_human@lemmy.ca
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      2 days ago

      Neither of these games are even in the same ballpark genre as Borderlands?

      If I want steak for dinner I’m not looking for advice on where to go that includes instead trying a local pizza place.

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        2 days ago

        I mean, if the choice is between $70 [my favorite food] and $20 my other favorite food, im chosing the $20 lunch.

        Regardless, there are no doubt games that fill the same genre - idk, Wildgate, Outer Worlds, something where the devs actually value your money.

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    3 days ago

    I thought borderlands 2 was great, but I spent more time playing 3. I’m excited to play 4 but there isn’t a chance in hell I’m buying it day one. I want to see what the general reaction to it is before I spend my coin on it.

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    3 days ago

    But only if are a fan of Borderlands 2, right? For any other casual player without attachment to the series, the third entry doesn’t seem to bad. I have yet to play. This is just what I get from reading opinions. Is this correct?

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      3 days ago

      3 has a bad story even if you aren’t a fan of 2. It’s peak middle aged men writing humor that the think teenagers would like. Gameplay is best in the series by far though. (Excluding 4 which I haven’t played yet).

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        3 days ago

        For someone who think gameplay is king, I would probably enjoy this game more than 2? Not saying that characters, story, writing, music, graphics and so on are not important; far from.

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          I, like you, heard the story was bad but figured I could just focus on the gameplay and ignore the writing. Unfortunately, the reason the bad writing is so notorious is that the game is setup to jam it in your face consantly. It’s unrelenting.

          Imagine playing a pretty decent game while a dead-eyed 50 year old comedian is making the worst jokes you’ve ever heard in your life while doing a very poor impression of gen-z internet slang they barely understand. The comedian thinks you the player are actually stupid so the jokes are as condescending as they are awful. Now imagine they won’t shut up. Every time you do anything in the game, you get a few minutes of these whacky jokes. Accepting a mission, every bullet of the mission, skits that you have to watch before progressing, etc. You have no choice but to engage with the lazy, insulting, horrendous writing that wears thin after minutes and goes on for the entire hours-long game.

          There are mods that disable the endless chatter which I can’t recommend more highly. I made the misake of playing the game raw. The game is actually pretty fun, but the aggressive garbage of the writing is not something easily ignored.

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            Hmm, I see. Like any extreme, it can outweigh and be the major pain point (or high point, whatever). Action games with too much cinematic and tutorial can also destroy the fun of an otherwise good game. And if the cinematic and constant chatting and characters are annoying, yeah, that’s a pass for me as well.

            I’ve purchased the game for something like 2,99 or so in Steam and thought will play it someday. I’ll probably install and test it just because I have it, but after reading comments like yours, I do not think to finish it. Not all games you start needs to be finished.

            BTW are those mods integrated into Steam? If so, I’ll have it in mind.

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              I think that’s the right approach. Once it starts getting old it won’t get better. That being said, the writing of the DLCs does not have the problem of the main story and are often pretty good. If getting access to all your character’s abilities wasn’t attached to playing the main story I would advise skipping the main game and only playing the DLCs.

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      BL2 is lightning, and all the others are potato batteries. The 1st game didn’t know what it wanted to be. PreSeq did a decent job of walking in the shadow, and it might even be considered underrated by some, but didn’t push any envelopes. Nothing it did really stood out. Tina’s Assault… exists? I guess? And then there’s 3.

      BL3 spit in the face of anyone who ever enjoyed anything about BL2 (again, the standard all others in the franchise are measured against); you liked the story set up by 2? This game ignores every single one of those plot hooks and delivers a flaccid mimicry of 2 instead. You liked the playable characters? How about we kill one, and turn two others into talking heads that spit out throwaway dialog in a dlc gamemode. You like the humor? Have a mission that makes you collect poop. You liked the villain? Have obnoxious streaming siblings. You like exploring the world? Sucks to suck, this world is empty.

      This big wild rant just to say we all want to forget BL3 happened.

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        That’s what I am saying (and what I get): fans of Borderlands 2 who love the game, are those who hate the sequel Borderlands 3. I compare this kind of to what Disney did to Star Wars… but I digress. What if one never played a Borderlands game before?

        To be fair, the villains seem to be annoying; they are just like regular teens today with social media attachment trying to be “cool”. Maybe those who never played the games before, and are young and identify themselves with the villains… those could like it? Humor is subjective, so if you don’t like it, others may. This wouldn’t be the first game “fans hate it, but everyone else don’t care and even like it”-game in the series.