• venotic@kbin.melroy.org
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    11 days ago

    Nah, Democrats failed us again last year. Instead of focusing on what matters, they played the exact same play out of their playbook from 2016. Which was to attack Trump over and over. They didn’t promise much of anything, only that “well, we’re not Trump so vote for us!”. We did that in 2020 with Biden and the best Biden did was nudge things but he didn’t do that grand of a job. We voted for him because he wasn’t Trump. When it came time for a fresher candidate to make history again, what did Harris do? She caved and went the whole “AT LEAST WE’RE NOT TRUMP!” towards the end of her campaign and that didn’t do wonders.

    And the fact that the Democrats allowed for Republicans, unchallenged, to take the Senate and House? Dude, no balls on them.

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      11 days ago

      They didn’t promise much of anything, only that “well, we’re not Trump so vote for us!”.

      Is that not enough? You prefer Trump to not-Trump?

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        11 days ago

        That is a dismally low bar which Biden tripped over and Kamala could hardly clear. It obviously wasn’t enough.

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          10 days ago

          Nonsensical. Circular reasoning. Why did Harris fail? Because she didn’t meet the low bar. How didn’t she meet the low bar? Because she failed.

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            @Cryophilia @crusa187 Harris failed because given the choice <%1% of Democrats would choose her as their candidate in an open, competitive primary. When she ran for the nomination in 2020 she got less than 1k votes nationwide, among female candidates she was 5th, and when Biden announced that he wanted a black woman VP, the logical choice was Stacy Abrams, not Harris.

            Harris is a deeply flawed candidate who doesn’t appeal to really any single group except maybe cops. And cops always vote Republican.

            On top of that, without a primary, she lacked a fresh bench of exciting Democrats to recruit to campaign and join her staff (think of the way Buttigieg was an effective campaigner in the Rust Belt for Biden) and she didn’t have a competent campaign staff who knew her as a candidate and had just figured out how to be a national candidate.

            The DNC failed this election by not holding primaries for a Candidate that was clearly mentally compromised. And it cost them the election. If you replace Trump with “Generic Republican” it would have been a Reagan '84 level bloodbath.

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              10 days ago

              I’m not going to argue about any of that because even in the worst case where all of that is true it’s still ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE BETTER THAN TRUMP.

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                @Cryophilia I agree with you, that’s why I voted for Harris, even though there are multitudes of major politicians I would support before her. But if elections were just about what was objectively best almost no elected officials would be in office. You have to at least attempt to play the game of politics and the DNC has flatly refused to do so the last three elections (and lost two of them).

                This is the time to discuss that. There’s a non-zero chance that the DNC tries to anoint someone like Tim Kaine like $insult to the nomination and then they loose to some Diet Trump person. And I really don’t think waiting until 2032 to fix what’s being broken today is a good plan.

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                  At least we’ve moved away from “I’m a proudly stupid voter” to “unfortunately, we have to cater to the stupid ones”. That’s progress. I can work with that.

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    10 days ago

    How dare you say that on Lemmy, or Reddit for that matter! Democrats and liberal ideology can do NO WRONG in these parts!

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      Right? Look at how downvoted OP is as well as all the replies that are also critical of Democrats…

      … Oh wait, it looks like you’re full of shit.

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        Lol… you call these comments “critical of Democrats?” Have you even READ what they say about Republicans around these parts?

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          It took you a week to come up with “people criticise Rebulicans”?

          As it has been some time since I posted my comment, I will remind you that what your said was:

          Democrats and liberal ideology can do NO WRONG in these parts!

          Despite the fact that Democrats are clearly being criticised. You’re just moving the goal posts and vaguely referencing comments that might exist somewhere.