• matlag@sh.itjust.works
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    12 days ago

    For the dishes: I don’t know the details of the 2 systems, but is there no way to retrofit the Starlink dishes to use Eutelsat’s constellation? I mean if we exclude the legal IP mess for reverse-engineering the electronics and software.

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    14 days ago

    “European Starlink rival” is a bit far fetched when there’s merely rumours that they might be able to offer a similar service. But that’s the stock market for you.

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      13 days ago

      They have both GEO and LEO satellites. Not on the scale of Starlink (for LEO), but they do have a network.

      I am not commenting on the nature of the stock market or anything like that. Just pointing out that they do have a working network, it’s not 100% speculation (like you see with crypto schemes).

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      14 days ago

      Now they have to offer a similar service. No pressure then 😊

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        13 days ago

        They do offer a better service, albeit marginally - better download speeds, lower latency, slower upload speeds though. Problem is their antennas - they cost 8.000€ compared to 300€ the starlink ones…

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          13 days ago

          Eutelsat are aimed at a different market: infrastructure. Their intended customers are larger and more demanding: research outposts, small villages, oil rigs, mobile phone towers, ships, and so on, as opposed to Starlink who focus on consumers directly, which is much more low-stakes. I’m genuinely curious if Eutelsat can move into Starlink’s territory.

          • th3_n4m31355_0n3@lemmy.world
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            13 days ago

            They will surely do in the future. For example in Spain the government is subsidizing satellite internet through Hispasat for remote communities. I’m sure many other governments do the same in their backyard. If EU throws starlink contracts out the window and start subsidizing EU satellite related businesses and startups things will definitely improve for everybody and the more contracts they sign the lower the prices will go for their clients.

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    13 days ago

    Sat internet is so overhyped. As it’s limited by physics cell towers will always outperform them. Simple as that.

    • cities - cables and 5g
    • country side - 4g and cables in high concentration areas
    • middle of nowhere or war zones - low orbit sats.

    This is purely a security issue not a consumer one.

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      13 days ago

      Spoken like a true spoiled city person Good luck getting the necessary infrastructure built (cables, towers, et al) to really remote places. It’s probably more expensive in the long run than having a satellite constellation.

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        13 days ago

        Good luck? Most of the world is already there. I had 3g in deep jungles of Thailand last weekend and even in the most remote places in China have wire these days.

        The main point is that sat is limited by physics so cell towers and wire are upgrades over sat so it makes much more sense to start with better technology now as we’ll never need less connection.

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          12 days ago

          And wires are not bound by physics? To run cables over such long distances you have to boost the signal at periodic distances to avoid voltage drops and noise

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            12 days ago

            If we can figure out how to put them on the bottom of the ocean and pipelines over just about any terrain, I think we can figure this out

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              12 days ago

              Yes and we can also use a solution which requires absolutely no cables and digging at all, and that doesn’t disrupt any natural environments and occupies land.

              And yes I’m aware of the impact satellites have on the atmosphere. There’s no free lunch.

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                12 days ago

                Because building space ports and rocket launches have 0 impact as well.

                But you acknowledge this, so what’s your point? Why pay a techno billionaire when we can publicly fund cables way cheaper and more friendly?

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                  12 days ago

                  Oh I’m all for Musk to eat shit. I was arguing that satellites are better, not starlink in particular. Lemmy seems to have issues separating their (valid) hate for muskrat with some of his companies or related technologies. And OP was arguing that cell towers are an improvement over satellites? Wth

                  Why can’t we have a publicly funded satellite constellation?

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    12 days ago

    We all know why CNBC. You could have just posted the title.

    Because the drug addled used car salesman who’s currently about to default on his Twitter loans decided to embrace his roots and started throwing up seig heils and is currently having a crack team of 4chan incels dismantle a government while he threatens the world and works to make what he’s doing here happen everywhere.

    Dude is a comic book villain. Villain of the week level. No real staying power. Either he’ll go broke or die from a ketamine overdose before Xmas. And what a gift that will be. I hope it happens on video.